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William Carpenter

William Carpenter

Male Abt 1067 -    Has 6 ancestors and more than 100 descendants in this family tree.

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  • Name William Carpenter 
    Birth Abt 1067  Melun, Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Siblings 4 Siblings 
    Person ID I176570  Geneagraphie
    Last Modified 6 Aug 2009 

    Father Knight Guillaume de Melun, "the Carpenter",   b. Abt 1042, Melun, Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1104-1109, Ile de France, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 67 years) 
    Family ID F71169  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family NN de Gouye,   b. Abt 1070, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown 
    Children 
    +1. William Carpenter,   b. Abt 1090, Melun, Seine-et-Marne, Île-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1162, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years)
    +2. Godwin Carpenter,   b. Abt 1100, Arras, France Find all individuals with events at this locationbur. Abt 1194, St. Stephen, near Bayeux, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 94 years)
    Family ID F71185  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 25 Nov 2000 

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  • Notes 
    • There is duplicative French records of Marne et Daniel of William, Lord William and William the Carpenter. There were two William Carpenters living between 1090 and 1110 AD.

      The standard practice of the time in Normandy and the surrounding areas was that a member of a knight's family would stay home when the other members of the clan went off to fight. This tradition came from a type of bond, or security to a Lord or King. If the knight became a traitor, his bond or security was forfeit. William may have been such a bond to his father at least once, because he was the youngest. This William and his father are often confused in the records. The father was a supporter of the French Crown and the son, William the Carpenter, was not.

      "Guilaume II" VisCount De Melun who later took the title of William the Carpenter after he was "outcast" by the French Crown. He supported the English in their efforts to secure France. Unlike his father he was not a supporter of the French Crown. The time he spent "being educated" by Normans in Normandy led to a break with the French Crown. While he was the younger son and a Count of Melun he was at odds with his own family. He was noted as a villian and "a most vile" person. The King of France traveled at the risk of his life through the lands this William the Carpenter controlled.

      After the battle in which "an arrow pierced his breast" and ended his life, the loyal French people rang church bells in celebration.
      Many of his lands became forfit and his family fled to the Kingdom of Flanders (now the Du Nord region of France). His wife is believed to be a daughter of the King of Flanders but was never named. It seems she was called Lady De Gouye.

      In the English-speaking part of the world, the exact date that surnames began to be adopted can't be pinpointed. The Domesday Book compiled by William the Conquerer required surnames, but hereditary surnames are not considered to have been commonplace until the late 1200's.
      William Camden wrote in Remaines of a Greater Worke Concerning Britaine:(1586)

      About the yeare of our Lord 1000...surnames began to be taken up in France, and in England about the time of the Conquest, or else a very little before, under King Edward the Confessor, who was all Frenchified...but the French and wee termed them Surnames, not because they are the names of the sire, or the father, but because they are super added to Christian names as the Spanish called them Renombres, as Renames.
      SEE Web Page:
      http://www.clanhuston.com/name/namehist.htm



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