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Maurice le Carpentier

Maurice le Carpentier

Male Abt 1275 -    Has more than 100 ancestors and more than 100 descendants in this family tree.

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  • Name Maurice le Carpentier 
    Birth Abt 1275  Ypres, West Vlaanderen, België Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christening Abt 1280 
    Gender Male 
    Death Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Siblings 3 Siblings 
    Person ID I176429  Geneagraphie
    Last Modified 25 Nov 2000 

    Father Jean le Carpentier,   b. Abt 1250   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F71141  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Stephen Carpenter,   b. Abt 1300, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Pierre le Carpentier,   b. Abt 1300, de Grand Pont, Du Nord, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
    +3. Jean le Carpentier,   b. Abt 1303, de Grand Pont, Du Nord, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1345, Dilwyne, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 43 years)
    +4. Renaud le Carpentier,   b. Abt 1307, Grand Pont, Du Nord, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
     5. Alix le Carpentier,   b. Abt 1309, Grand Pont, Du Nord, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
     6. Mehant le Carpentier,   b. Abt 1313, Grand Pont, Du Nord, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
    Family ID F71145  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 25 Nov 2000 

  • Notes 
    • AKA = MAURICE CARPENDER AND CARPENTER, GENT. OF GLOUSTER SEE: "SAMUEL
      CARPENTER AND HIS DESCENDENTS" BY EDWARD & LOUIS HENRY CARPENTER, 1912, PAGE 4.
      MAURICE apparently wasn't the only Carpenter to come to England at this time.
      A Stephen Carpenter is in the English Pariliment in 1325 but no mention of who
      his father was. Maurice is probably an Uncle. See note below.
      BIRTH: abt 1275/1280.

      !"The arms borne by the Carpenters of Homme in Herefordshire show three cross
      crosslets, and the same appears in a lineage of several generations commencing
      about 1300 with a Maurice Carpenter, or Carpender, Gent., in the County of
      Glouster, and reported in the Herald Visitation in that county." This
      indicates his decent from the same Norman family of the de Melun Carpenters of
      France. The three cross crosslets indicate fighting in three crusades.
      See note below regarding Coat of Arms.

      !MISC: Some other early Carpenters and related families were named in the
      Domesday Book, 1086 A.D., in which several tenents-in-chief were surnamed
      Carpenter. "48 Durand Carpenter holds 1/2 hide in Wilkswood . . ." "6 Stephen
      Carpenter holds 1 hide and 1 vivgate of land in Earlscourt . . ." "7 Stephen
      also holds 3 hides. Aki held them before 1066." "1 Rayner Carpenter holds
      Marston (Stannett) from the King." Rayner was a Lord. These per "Domesday
      Book" UONTCO, DA 990, D5, 1975, Vol. 6.
      In 1121 a Godwin Carpenter resided in Suffolk county.
      Robert De Melun was Bishop of Hereford from 1164 to 1179.
      In 1200 Adam Carpenter was recorded as living in Montacute county,
      Somersetshire, England. In 1292 a Hugh Carpenter was a chaplain at Hereford
      Cathedral.
      A De Melun was Earl of Warwick and another De Melun was Dean of Wimborne.

      !Film #: 170411, Page #: 632, Ordinance #: 24191
      French Sur-names 944 D46d - CARPENTIER ++, Forme norm.-picarde de Charpentier;
      var. du Sud-Ouest et roussillonnase Carpentier. Avecart. Le Carpentier.

      !HISTORIC NOTE: After King Phillip III (who ruled from 1270 to 1285) was King
      Phillip IV (who ruled from 1285 to 1314). King Phillip IV, "The Fair" was a
      handsome man for his time and had much public support. He was able to put a
      French Archbishop in as Pope in 1305. Pope Clement V moved to Avignon, France
      in 1309 and carried out the King's orders, which included suppressing the
      Knights Templars. King Phillip IV was not as successful at war however,
      having lost against the English in 1294 and the Flanders (now Belgium) in 1302.
      He died in 1314.
      Much political confusion reigned over the next few years during King Louis X
      rule of 1314 to 1316 and King John I rule in 1316. By the time King Phillip V
      came to rule in 1316 much of the turmoil caused many Lords and Nobles to flee
      to England.
      This is the time period that Maurice left France for England (about 1314-1316)
      leaving his eldest child in France to continue the Lordship. King Phillip V
      ruled from 1316 to 1322 followed by Charles the IV who died without an heir in
      1328.
      King Edward the First ruled in England at this time (early 1200s) and had been
      a supporter of King Phillip IV. He was succeeded by Edward the Second.
      1314 was a bad year for both Kings, one died and Edward II lost his and his
      father's 18 year attempt to conquer Scotland at the disasterous Battle of
      Bannockburn. King Edward, the Third, laid claim to the French Crown after
      King Charles IV died without an heir when he became King in 1327. This began
      the so called Hundred year war with France (officially or actually lasting
      from 1337 to 1453 even though English troops were in Normandy in the early
      1330s).

      !Source: Wills in Playfair's British Antiquities (London 1810); Davis' and
      Owen's New Peerage (London 1778), Vol. III, p. 108; L.G. Pine (Ed.), Burke's
      Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage (London 1956); History of the County of
      Hereford; The Life of Lord George Carpenter (London, 1736); Thomas Brewer's
      Memoirs and History of the City of London School for Boys (London, 1856); Amos
      Bugbee Carpenter's Carpenter Family Memorial (Amherst, Mass, 1898); J. Hatton
      Carpenter's "The Carpenter Family" in The Utah Genealogical Magazine, Vol. 16,
      pp. 60-70; Edward Gibbon's History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
      (Philadelphia, Penn., 1845), Vol. V, P. 57; Records of the British Museum,
      London; Records of the National Library of Wales.

      !COAT OF ARMS: The arms granted to Lord George Carpenter in 1719, were Pally
      of six, argent and gules on a chevron, azure, three cross crosslets, or. The
      same arms, less the supporters and motto, were used by the Herefordshire
      Carpenter family and were emblazoned in a glass window of the college and
      church at Westbury upon Trin as early as 1443. They were placed there by
      permanently by Bishop John Carpenter of Worcester also known as John the Elder
      in 1442. These Coat-of-Arms became known as the Worcester Arms.

      !Note: Is his son, Stephen Carpenter, the same as Stephen Le Carpenter of
      Winterbourn' in 1323?
      Is he related to Robert le Carpenter born abt 1167 in Huntingdon? Also found
      in the Suffolk Curia Regis Rolls in 1212?
      !SEE: Calendar of Antrobus Deeds before 1625, edited by R. B. Pugh in 1947.
      Page 6, dated 18 Mar 1323 mentions "Gift with warranty by Stephen le carpenter
      of Winterbourn' to Henry Curteis of Ambresbur' of a tenement with a curtilage
      which he had in the town of Ambresbur' . . ." (ie town of Amesbury).

      !Based on research by John R. Carpenter, 5850 Yorkshire Ave. La Mesa, CA
      91942-2821 (619) 466-5735 (935 area code in 6/2000). Please submit
      corrections, additions, et cetera to John R. Carpenter for inclusion to the
      CARPENTER MASTER FILE. GEDCOM or hardcopy accepted.

      !E-MAIL: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 From Tony Carpenter in England, "Gill M Carpenter"
      John,
      The records of Gloucestershire have at last sent me the Visitation of Maurice
      Carpender 29 May 1600. They describe the Carpenters arms in Full. Also I have
      Two records showing the transfer of lands in 1385 and 1399 to Maurice
      Carpenter and his wife Margaret. Tony.

      !E-MAIL: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" After
      looking trough hundreds of medieval English texts I finally bumped into
      Maurice Carpenter. He really did exist. Pardon my skimpy faith. He appears in
      the Sussex Subsidies which were tax lists. They are, I understand, unique
      records which list the people who had title to land and therefore were liable
      for tax. The Carpenters held much Sussex land for the record years 1296-1332.
      Maurice 'held' land in Sandlake for 1296. Interestingly, in the next survey he
      does not, suggesting a move? The list are no indication of residence. However
      there was a sure pattern of Sussex and Carpenter. Maurice rendered his surname
      as Carpentar'in the tax list. While I can't be certain, it might be a scribe's
      corruption of Carpentier. Maurice might have been a newcomer. Though surely he
      has something to do with all his other Sussex relatives.
      Bruce E. Carpenter.



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