Obadiah Brice Garner

1770 - Bef 1821  (51 years)    Has 30 ancestors and more than 100 descendants in this family tree.

• Name	Obadiah Brice Garner  [1]
  Birth	1770	Pittsylvania County, Virginia, USA
  Gender	Male
  Death	Bef Dec 1821	Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA   [1]
  Left no will. His estate settled in Probate Book # 5, p. 176, Rutherford Co.
  Burial	Harton Cemetery
  Presumed bu. in the Harton Cem, above Rock Spgs Church, 20 mi. from Nashville.
  Siblings	7 Siblings
  + 1. Diana Garner,   b. 10 Oct 1769, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. 23 Feb 1848, Henry County, Virginia, USA  (Age 78 years) ▻ John Cahill, Sr.,  m. 1789 + 2. Obadiah Brice Garner,   b. 1770, Pittsylvania County, Virginia, USA d. Bef Dec 1821, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA  (Age 51 years) ▻ Elinor Nance,  m. 11 Jan 1797   3. Nancy Garner,   b. 1771, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. Yes, date unknown ▻ Jesse Heard   4. Elen Garner,   b. 1773, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. Yes, date unknown ▻ James Letcher,  m. 4 Aug 1803   5. Abel Garner,   b. 1775, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. Yes, date unknown   6. John Garner,   b. 1777   d. Dec 1865, Lawrenceburg, Tennessee, USA  (Age 88 years) ▻ Elizabeth Parker,  m. 1806 ;   Peggy Guess,  m. 13 Feb 1816   7. William Garner,   b. 1779, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. Yes, date unknown ▻ Nancy Davis,  m. 11 Jan 1808 ;   Obedience Haley,  m. 12 Feb 1823   8. Thomas Garner, III,   b. 1781, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. Yes, date unknown ▻ Frances "Fanny" Warren,  m. 14 Nov 1807 ;   Sarah Warren,  m. 12 Nov 1829
  Person ID	I100858	Geneagraphie
  Last Modified	15 Oct 2001

  
  

  Father	Thomas Garner, II,   b. Abt 1734, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. 27 Mar 1801, Henry County, Virginia, USA (Age 67 years)
  Mother	Sarah Dodd,   b. Abt 1738   d. Aft 1801 (Age 64 years)
  Marriage	1767	Virginia, USA
  Family ID	F41762	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Elinor Nance,   b. 1776-1778, Henry County, Virginia, USA d. 1816, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA (Age 38 years)
  Marriage	11 Jan 1797  [2]
  Date of marriage bond; married by John King, minister. Source: Nance Register, compiled by Martin L. Nance, 472 Ockley Dr, Shreveport, LA, copyright 1966, Dry Printing Co, Shreveport, LA, Elizabeth Ann Nance Casto, editor, 7101 Larrlyn Dr, Springfield, VA, p. 337, Section H, Division IV, "Descendants of John Nance"
  Children	1. Jesse Garner,   b. 1798, Virginia, USA d. Yes, date unknown   2. Obadiah Garner, Jr.,   b. 1799   d. 1822 (Age 23 years)   3. Eve Garner,   b. 1800   d. Yes, date unknown + 4. William Spencer Garner,   b. 23 Jan 1805, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA d. 8 Mar 1880, Newton Co, Missouri, USA (Age 75 years)   5. Thomas Garner,   b. 1805-1809, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA d. Yes, date unknown + 6. John Nance Garner, II,   b. 15 Jun 1810, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA d. 10 Jun 1847, Murfreesboro, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA (Age 36 years) + 7. Brice Martin Garner,   b. Abt 1814, Rutherford County, Tennessee, USA bur. 20 Aug 1893, Elmwood Cem, Memphis, Shelby Co, Tennessee, USA (Age ~ 79 years)
  Family ID	F40973	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	22 Mar 2001

  
  

• Notes

  Commissioned an Ensign in the 22nd Regiment, Tennessee militia, July 7, 1814. Removed to Rutherford Co, TN after marriage. 1799: Name appeared on Grainger Co, TN tax list. 1800: Name appeared on Jefferson Co, TN tax list. Listed in 1810, 1820 Rutherford Co, TN Census. 1812: Name on a petition to the state Legislature re: county seat location. 1812: Purchased land in Rutherford Co. There is a record in The Record of Commission of Officers in the TN Militia 1796-1815, that says Obadiah Garner was commissioned an Ensign 22nd Regiment on 7/7/1814. ************************************************************************** Return-Path: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:15:23 -0500 I found this on the Family Tree Maker archive CDs. I have not researched it myself. John Garner and Susannah Keene had Henry Garner, b. 1664 in VA, d. 1745 in Westmoreland. Married Catherine Bradley. They had Thomas, who married Rosamond Courtney and had Thomas Garner, b. 1745 in Henry County, VA. m. 1767 in VA to Sarah. Children of Thomas and Sarah were: Obediah B. Diana Nancy Elen b. 1773 Henry County Abel 1775 Henry County John William in Henry County Thomas b. 1781, Henry County Obediah Brice Garner married Eleanor Nance, Jan 14, 1797. Henry County, VA CHildren were: Brice M. John Nance I Jesse Eve ************************************************************************** From GARRY SPENCER 383-4288 or 383-4404 Garner, Obadiah (1822) Rutherford County - Record Book 5 - page 176 ************************************************************************** * Return-Path: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:20:47 -0400 From: TNoye-at-aol.com To start my story, I should probably backtrack a bit here. I have a Margaret "Peggy" Garner that was born circa 1785 in NC. She appears in McNairy Co., TN in 1830 with her two young boys, Calaway B. Garner that was born in 1809 in TN, and Noah Garner that was born in 1813 also in TN. Rumor has it even today that Peggy was an unwed mother of the two boys. I tend not to believe that rumor, one son maybe, two back then not likely. Peggy, Calaway, Noah and his wife & family are all buried in Cave Springs Cemetery in Chester Co. (area used to be in McNairy Co. when they were buried). If things pan out here and we really do connect up, I'd be happy to send you all the info I have on these folks. Now, Noah Garner is in possession of a large track of land in McNairy county that he and his family lived on. No land deeds can be located on this property, either buying or selling. In TN evidently land can be passed on to heirs with only a will, no land deed required, even up to today there is land that a deed has never been drawn on. So I backtracked and found that a Brice M. Garner had two large land parcels into his name in the year of 1824, one was 292 acres and one 285 acres. These were "land grants" awarded to him. No deeds of him selling can be located. Thinking maybe there was a relation between Brice M. Garner and his land and the land my Noah ended up with, I started investigating Brice. Which in a round about way led me to Obadiah, obviously. In 1817, a John Garner died in Rutherford County, leaving his widow Peggy. Then I found these two census reports on Obadiah: Garner, Obediah State : TN County : Rutherford Co. Year : 1810 Page # : 0 Age ranges in household : 01010-2101002 one male age 10-16 one male age 26-45 2 females under 10 one female 10-16 one female 26-45 2 slaves Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1820 Garner, Obediah State : TN County : Rutherford Co. Year : 1820 Age ranges in household : 210101-00110 2 males under 10 one male 10-16 one male 16-26 one male 45 and over one female 16-26 one female 26-45 Notice, please, the 1810 census shows no males under the age of 10, yet the 1820 shows a male between the age of 10-16 (the age Calaway Garner was in 1820 was 11). Almost looks like Peggy and her two boys may be living with Obadiah?? Maybe you could provide some input as to whom is all in Obadiah's house in 1820 please, that sure would help. Now backtrack one more time please. 1798 in Davidson County there is a John Garner that married a Margaret Carothers. A Britain Garner was bondsman (ever heard of a Britain Garner by chance?). In 1803 Rutherford Co. was formed off of Davidson County. I have not proven my theory here, but this is what I'm working at: John Garner married Margaret "Peggy" Carothers in 1798 Davidson Co. Rutherford is formed off of Davidson. John and Peggy have two sons in 1809 and 1813, then John dies in 1817 in Rutherford Co. Looks like Peggy and boys may be living in Obadiah's house in 1820. Obadiah dies in 1822, Brice M. Garner gets land in McNairy County in 1824, and in 1830 Peggy and two boys are in McNairy Co. (Calaway as head of house, one boy 10-16 which is Noah, and one female 20-40 which is Peggy). Noah Garner inherits land from someone. Who? So that's my story so far. As you can see I've lots of holes to fill in. I know that Obadiah had sons William, Thomas, and Brice M. Did he have any other sons by chance? Or do you know how he was related to this John Garner that died there in 1817?? Another mystery I don't understand, is Brice getting land in 1824, yet in 1829 he is put into Thomas Garner's guardianship for being a minor heir of Obadiah. Was there TWO Brice M. Garners running around back then? Or was he a minor when he got the land in 1824?? I have copies of both of these land grants, and they both definately say Brice M. Garner in 1824. Also would love to know if you know for sure whom Obadiah's father was, was it Thomas, son of Thomas, son of John? I also noticed that there was a Jesse Garner that married a Peggy Guess in Rutherford in 1816. Is he also connected to Obadiah by chance? Teddy Noye in Palm Desert, CA ************************************************************************** From: BudLinda52-at-aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:14:28 -0500 (EST) I have spent the last 36 hours going over facts on Obediah. The facts that I gave you are correct. The Obediah that the other person gave you is also correct. They are off 2 different lines. One is the Bushnell line & one is of Henry & Catherine Bradley line. REF: "Garners of Texas A Personal History" by Bascom N. Timmons, Harper & Bros. Publishers, New York, avail. at San Augustine (TX?) Public Library & Houston, Harris Co, TX library: Said John Nance Garner was "Scotch in the male line & Welsh in the other." Mentions the Garners were a well-off family that had "found the way to education & business success" & had fought for both the King vs. the French & for Geo. Washington vs. the King. Also mentions the Garners "had moved west on the outer rim of advancing civilization" but were "not without roots". REF: Linda K. Jobe: Now, about Obediah Garner the elder..... This cousin here is from Florence, Lauderdale Co., AL and has a sister and cousin, I think that still live there. She has done extensive research and is good, and has been Pres. and other things in our Gen. Soc. She is a very nice person, and very thorough, not that she can never be wrong, but anyway, she gave me the children's names of Thomas Garner who was Obediah's father, which was named in his will, and she has a copy or her sister does of his will. Also, a friend of her sister in AL, pd. a woman for the documentation of the family of Obediah Garner and Helen Nance, and she copied the info, and gave it to me. Here is what I have on this: Now we have checked this out, with our copy of the Garner/Keene book, and we don't believe or can't prove that this Thomas is kin to the Garner/Keene bunch, in fact, we believe this Thomas is kin to our James Garner, the one who died at age 105 in Florence, Lauderdale Co., AL at the home of my Lewis Garner who is the brother of my William Garner, both from Pittsylvania Co., VA, next to Henry Co., VA. Ok, from Thomas Garner's will, Henry Co., VA, dated 6/26/1802, states his wife's name was Sarah (maiden name she says might be "Dodd". Children from the will: Eleanor, m. James Letcher; Obediah, m. Eleanor/Helen Nance, ministers return 1797; Nancy, m. Jesse Heard (he was adm. of the will); Diana, m. ______ Cahill; John, m. Peggy Guess; Thomas, m. 1) Fannie Warren 11/14/1807, and 2) Sarah Warren; William, m. 1) Nancy Davis, and 2) Obedience Haley; and Abel (who was never adequately identified, but believed by some to be Brice Martin Garner, but this cousin and desc. of his here doesn't think it is Brice. Now the info that was sold as documented on Obediah and Helen Nance is : Obediah was b. 1777 or about and he married Helen/Elinor or Eleanor Nance, Ch: 1. Jesse, b. 1798, m. Eliz. Caulk 2/2/1826 (have marriage record) 2. Eve, b. 1800, m. James H. Hill 10/25/1827 (have marr. record) 3. Will or William, b. 1804, no record of a marriage found 4. John Nance (1), b. June 15, 1810, m. Jan 5, 1833 to Rebecca Walpole (middle name believed to be Katherine) (have marr. record) 5. Brice Martin, b. 1815, m. 1) Sarah Shaffer, 5/10/1837 in Davidson Co., TN (have marr. record); and 2) Flora Hill Newman (poss. a widow) in 1854 in Davidson Co., TN (have marr. record) Now I also checked the Mormon Ancestral file, and this has the same for the children, even though I don't necessarily take the info I see in there as fact everytime, I still try and check out everything everywhere I can find anything on it that can corroborate what I find. Too, the most important thing that convinced me that the above info on their children is partly the marriage records I found in our library and mostly I checked the 1820 TN census for Rutherford Co. and it is true that there are two Obediah Garners in that Co. but one of them, all the children's ages and sexes all checked out perfectly with the info above, and also the ages and all of Obediah and Helen. The other Obediah had in 1820 census, 2 males in the 16 to 26 age column and one male in the 26 to 45 age column, which I would say the latter one could not be the Obediah b. in 1799, but could be one in the other column. In the female side, it only has one female in the household, and she is in the 16 to 26 age column. Under the other Obediah, (which checks out with the documented info) is the following: 2 males under 10 yrs. which would have been John Nance and Brice Martin; 1 male between 10 yrs and 16 yrs, which would be William; 1 male in the 18-26 age column, which would be Jesse; and 1 male over 45 yrs, which would be Obediah, as 1777 is not definate on his b. date, but about then. In the female side, there is one in the 16-26 age column which is Eve, and one in the 26-45 age column which would be Helen/Eleanor. That is all it lists in the 1820 census under that Obediah Garner in Rutherford Co., TN. Also I have a paper I copied from I believe a book in the Dallas Lib. entitled Cole and related families that states that it is said that Obediah is buried in the Garner/Walpole cem. From a book called "Rutherford Co., TN Cem. Vol. I, NW 1/3 of Co.", p. 130, it says: No. 240 WALPOLE-GARNER CEMETERY By: Margaret Green, in Garret & McLain p. 123 Smyrna Quadrangle. On hill above Rock Springs Church and on line fence between Gwynn and Darty farm. (Above lake on Gwynn place) cemetery on Darty side of fence (another source says this cem. is on or near Williamson and Rutherford Co. lines) Jon Garner Rebecca Walpole June 15, 1810 Jan. 5, 1833 (mar. date only) July 10, 1847 ________________________ (the stone was near chimney of Darty house in fall of 1971) Charles Walpole (Rebecca's father) Oct. 3, 1788 Sept. 28, 1851 These are headstones, but Rebecca was not buried there, as she came to Red River Co., and is buried somewhere close to there, by a dau., I believe, and I have that info somewhere here.

  
  

• Sources

  [S382] Jackson, Ronald Vernon, (R.G. & Associates, certified genealogists ,). [S214] Henry County VA Marriage Bonds.